Piers Morgan CLASHES with Candace Owens During On-Air Firestorm Interview: “May be that the Person in the Media Spewing Bullsh*t to the Public is You”

British TV host Piers Morgan aggressively confronted conservative commentator Candace Owens over past remarks involving Turning Point USA (TPUSA) and its leadership on his show, Piers Morgan Uncensored.

What unfolded was a chaotic, combative exchange as Morgan repeatedly accused Owens of recklessly floating conspiracy theories while Owens fired back, accusing Morgan and the corporate media of once again running cover, silencing questions, and repeating what she called “fed slop.”

Morgan zeroed in on Owens’ prior statements, suggesting that individuals connected to Turning Point USA were “complicit” in what happened to Kirk, demanding names and proof.

Owens immediately pushed back, insisting Morgan was distorting her words.

Morgan interrupted, insisting that Owens had explicitly used the phrase “complicit in the murder,” forcing Owens to clarify and re-clarify her position several times.

Owens argued that her comments were made in the context of discussing how conspiracies operate historically, invoking the assassination of President John F. Kennedy as an analogy.

Owens maintained she believes there are individuals within TPUSA who concealed information after Kirk’s death but stopped short of accusing anyone of carrying out the killing.

The exchange escalated when Morgan asked whether Owens believed anyone at TPUSA had advance knowledge of Kirk’s death.

Owens said she had privately identified two individuals she believed merited further scrutiny but admitted she lacked concrete evidence and therefore refused to name them publicly.

Morgan accused her of recklessly alarming Kirk’s widow without proof.

Piers Morgan:
Candace, I want to get to the reality of what you’re actually saying. When you say that somebody at Turning Point USA—Charlie’s company—was complicit in his murder, who was?

Candace Owens:
I believe that there were multiple people at Turning Point who are—as I have said many times, my exact words are—they are engaged in a cover-up of what happened to Charlie on that day.

Piers Morgan:
No, but who was involved in his murder?

Candace Owens:
I didn’t say that they murdered Charlie.

Piers Morgan:
You said that people at Turning Point were complicit in his murder.

Candace Owens:
No. My exact sentence that I said was that there were people at Turning Point who are engaged in a cover-up. I believe that thoroughly.

Piers Morgan:
No, you didn’t.

Piers Morgan:
Candace, you didn’t say that. You said—literally—

Candace Owens:
I did say that on my entire show.

Piers Morgan:
You said there were people at Turning Point complicit in his murder.

Candace Owens:
Okay.

Piers Morgan:
That’s what you said.

Candace Owens:
When you and I were discussing, that’s why I said, “Let’s go back.” I was applying the logic of a conspiracy to JFK. I said, “Okay, JFK—you have people that are complicit.” Of course, if you apply that logic, if there is a conspiracy, there’s going to be multiple people that are going to be complicit over time in order for a large-stage murder to happen.

Piers Morgan:
You specifically said you didn’t say complicit in a cover-up.

Piers Morgan:
You said complicit in the murder, because I said, “Who at Turning Point was involved in his murder?”

Candace Owens:
Let me clarify for you. Okay, you can keep saying what I said, or you can listen to what I am saying. When I was using the analogy of JFK and we were connecting it, I was basically pushing back on you because you were suggesting that all of these people being involved would be crazy. So I was applying the analogy—

Piers Morgan:
No, I said, “I don’t know.”

Candace Owens:
Okay. Well, you actually—if you go back and listen—you were suggesting that a conspiracy never came up.

Piers Morgan:
I said, “You don’t know either. You’re floating theories.”

Candace Owens:
When we started talking about the JFK thing—

Piers Morgan:
You’re perfectly in type.

Piers Morgan:
Listen, let me make it clear.

Candace Owens:
No, I really think you’re not holding onto your thoughts here correctly.

Piers Morgan:
Let me spell out my thoughts very clearly.

Candace Owens:
When we started talking about JFK, the implication that you were making was that it was crazy to suggest that multiple people could have been involved at different levels.

Candace Owens:
I was then connecting the dots and saying that in order for the JFK assassination to happen, there had to have been tons of people who were complicit.

Piers Morgan:
I understand. I heard what you said.

Candace Owens:
Maybe you’re the person who takes the cameras down. Maybe you’re the person who told him to drive that day. Maybe you’re LBJ. They’re not all complicit in the murder, but they’re all at different, varying stages involved in the cover-up. That’s what a grand conspiracy actually is.

I do believe—so you don’t have to go back and we don’t have to go through it—I’m telling you what I think about Turning Point. I am very known for being honest about what I believe. I’m not exactly a person you’ve got to pull teeth on.

Piers Morgan:
Sure.

Candace Owens:
I believe that there are people at Turning Point who are engaged in covering up what happened on that day.

Piers Morgan:
Were any of them engaged in the planning of the murder of Charlie Kirk?

Candace Owens:
I wouldn’t know how it was planned. I cannot confidently make that statement. I can say confidently that I know they’re engaged in the cover-up because I’ve been investigating what happened on that day and what transpired thereafter.

I’ve been clear. I’ve named those people on my show. I’ve said they are engaged in the cover-up, and I’ve listed the lies. You don’t have to try to make something out of what I didn’t say. I tell you what I think—it’s already controversial. We don’t need to get more controversial.

Do I think someone at Turning Point pulled the trigger? No. Obviously, I don’t think someone at Turning Point pulled the trigger.

Candace Owens:
We don’t even know who did pull the trigger.

Piers Morgan:
Do you think anybody at Turning Point—did anybody at Turning Point, in your opinion—know that Charlie Kirk was going to be murdered?

Candace Owens:
There are specifically two people at Turning Point USA, and I have communicated that information to Erika and Justin Strife, that I would not be surprised if they had foreknowledge of Charlie Kirk being assassinated.

Piers Morgan:
But do you have any evidence of that?

Candace Owens:
I am not going to name those people because it’s not right for me to name those people until I know for a fact that they did.

Piers Morgan:
Did you give the names to Erika?

Candace Owens:
Yes, I absolutely did.

Piers Morgan:
You gave the names to Erika of two current employees at Turning Point who you believe were involved in the preparation for the murder of Charlie Kirk. Is that what you’re saying?

Candace Owens:
I told them that if I were in your shoes, these would be two employees that I would look further into. That’s what I said.

Piers Morgan:
What evidence do you have that they had any prior knowledge of the murder?

Candace Owens:
Because I don’t have concrete evidence is the reason why I’m not naming them. So I’ve been responsible. I’m not saying—

Piers Morgan:
You’ve got no evidence, but you’re telling the widow that these two people may have been involved in the murder. You see the problem.

Candace Owens:
The issue is, there is not concrete evidence. It’s like you’re trying to get me to say something that I never said and then asking me to defend it.

Piers Morgan:
No, I’m asking what evidence you’ve got.

Candace Owens:
You’re asking me privately whether I communicated to them that I think they should look further. That’s called an investigation.

WATCH:

JUST IN: Sparks fly as Piers Morgan confronts Candace Owens about previous comments she made about TPUSA.

Morgan: When you say that somebody at TPUSA was complicit in his murder, who? Who was?

Owens: I believe that there were multiple people at Turning Point who are, as I have… pic.twitter.com/2haVtDtIXS

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) December 17, 2025

As the interview spiraled toward its end, Owens delivered a parting shot to Morgan.

The confrontation also veered into broader territory, with Owens accusing the corporate media of running cover and discouraging legitimate inquiry

Morgan went even further, bluntly telling Owens to her face that she herself might be the one spewing “bullshit” to the public.

Piers Morgan:
Why? What is your theory?

Candace Owens:
I don’t know.

Candace Owens:
I don’t know.

Piers Morgan:
What’s your theory? You must have an idea.

Candace Owens:
My theory is that we should investigate everything strange that happened on that day so we can figure out what happened. This is literally just called an investigation.

Piers Morgan:
Are you suggesting Egypt?

Candace Owens:
Why are we pretending that we don’t know why we ask questions? You’re a journalist. You know what this is. You’re like, “What’s going on? What’s going on?” Why do you want to know why these planes were tracking Charlie?

Well, my theory is that we are being sold absolute fed slop. The media is doing their Operation Mockingbird Part Two scenario by telling us, “Well, unless you absolutely have a conclusion, you can’t even ask the question.” Yes, we very well damn can.

Piers Morgan:
But it may be, Candice—

Candace Owens:
Keep asking consistent questions until we get a clarified explanation for what happened on that day. Right now, we have nothing. That is the reason why people are watching my show—because I’m the only one not treating them like they’re absolute idiots who don’t have two eyes, who believe in the magic bullet theory, and who understand that Egyptian planes should not have been tracking Charlie. Even three times this year would be an anomaly.

Candace Owens:
They’ve been tracking him. We don’t know where it’s going to end, but we are going to keep asking questions until we get clear answers.

Piers Morgan:
Candice, it may be that the person in the media spewing bullshit to the public is you.

Candace Owens:
No. Nice try. It’s not.

Piers Morgan:
Could be.

Candace Owens:
It’s you, by saying, “Why are you asking questions? Don’t you worry about Mikey’s feelings?” Everyone knows what this is.

Like I said, we have the example—the concrete example—of after JFK’s assassination, media members quite literally being put on the payroll of the CIA. We have a historical example that we can look at and say, “We’re not doing that again.”

It doesn’t matter how many times you keep telling the public that I’m spewing bullshit. It is only because nothing has come out of this investigation that makes any sense that the public is not listening to—sorry to say this, Piers—people like you.

What I love about you and me sitting down is that this exact same time last year, you were doing the same weird questioning and making all these claims when I said they were committing a Holocaust against the Gazans—and then you changed your mind.

Piers Morgan:
Actually, this time—

Candace Owens:
You know what, Piers? I’ll see you next year when you change your mind again, when we have more information about what happened. You’ll realize that the difference between me and you is that I have the courage to take the risks and ask the questions first, before it’s popular.

You wait until it becomes popular—and then you change your mind.

PIERS: “It may be that the person in the media spewing bullsh*t to the public is you.”

CANDACE: “The difference between me and you is that I have the courage to take the risks and ask the questions … You wait until it becomes popular, and then you change your mind.” pic.twitter.com/bjwNDvpCVQ

— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) December 17, 2025

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