Meghan bravely opens up about her miscarriage and says she ‘learned to detach’ in new episode of podcast
MEGHAN Markle has bravely opened up about her miscarriage and said she “learned to detach” in her new podcast.
American lawyer and politician Reshma Saujani featured on the latest episode of Confessions of a Female Founder.
The Duchess of Sussex, 43, talked with Saujani, who is the founder of Girls Who Code, about her political career.
She ran as a Democratic candidate for Public Advocate in 2013 coming third in the primary.
Saujani explained: “I think we think as women that when we try something, especially something that we want so bad, and it doesn’t work out that it will break us.
“And we won’t be able to wake up the next day. We won’t be able to continue on.
“I think there is a sense that failure will cripple you.”
Meghan interjected: “Right that it will break you as opposed to break you open for the possibility of more.
“When it breaks open it leaves space and growth for so much more love, growth and resilience to pour in.”
Saujani also talked about stepping away from her non-profit organisation.
She said: “When you don’t have power you’re not important anymore.
“Being able to let it go and give somebody else that light knowing it was actually going to diminish my power… but that was the point.”
Meghan replied: “That is a lot of growth. That takes people a tremendous amount of time to settle into being able to do that and to not feel rattled when the phone’s not ringing, to not feel rattled when you’ve stepped out the light so to speak.
“But as you step out of the light you’re actually stepping into your own light in a different way and creating space for someone else to be in the light, which is probably the larger purpose of all of us being here.”
Prince Harry and Meghan announced they were stepping back from official public duties on January 8, 2020.
She also touched upon how they both experienced miscarriages.
How the Royal drama gripped UK and beyond
JAN 8, 2020: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex announce they are to “step back as senior members” of the Royal Family and divide their time between the UK and North America.
JAN 18: Buckingham Palace announces an agreement has been reached for Harry “to step back from royal duties, including official military appointments”.
JAN 20: The Palace announces Harry and Meghan will no longer use their HRH titles and will not receive public funds for royal duties. The couple say they intend to repay £2.4million of taxpayer money for the refurbishment of Frogmore Cottage, which will remain their UK family home.
MAR 3: Harry and the Queen meet for a four-hour conversation about Megxit.
MAR 9: Meghan and Harry attend the Commonwealth Day service – alongside William and Kate –their final royal event before giving up royal duties.
MAR 27: The couple move to Los Angeles after a brief stay in Canada.
JUNE: They buy an £11million mansion in Montecito, California.
SEPT: Netflix announces a huge $100million deal with the couple.
NOV: In an article in the New York Times, Meghan reveals she suffered a miscarriage four months earlier.
MAR 7, 2021: The couple give a US TV interview with Oprah Winfrey, in which the Duchess reveals her suicidal thoughts and accuses a member of the Royal Family of racism.
MAR 8: The Palace responds, saying the race issues raised are “concerning” and “while some recollections may vary” the matters will be “taken very seriously”.
APR 17: Harry attends the funeral of his grandfather the Duke of Edinburgh.
JUNE 4: Daughter Lilibet is born in a hospital in Santa Barbara, California.
JULY 1: Harry and William unite to unveil a statue of Diana at Kensington Palace.
JUNE 2022: The brothers come together for the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee celebrations, and again two months later for her funeral. The state occasion is Meghan’s final visit to the UK.
DEC: Netflix series Harry & Meghan airs. The Duke says in one episode it had been “terrifying” to have his brother “scream and shout” at him about their future.
JAN 8, 2023: Harry is interviewed by ITV to publicise his controversial book Spare – published two days later – claiming it was “Meghan versus Kate”.
APR: Harry has a “heart-to-heart” talk with dad Charles before agreeing to attend the King’s Coronation in London.
MAY 6: Arriving alone for the ceremony, he sits two rows behind his brother and leaves soon after the service.
JUNE: Harry becomes the first senior royal in more than 130 years to give evidence in court, when he appears at the High Court for his case against Mirror Group Newspapers.
JULY: Streaming giant Spotify announces it is parting ways with the Suss-exes’ Archewell Audio brand, above, in a “mutual decision”.
SEPT: Harry rejects an offer to spend the anniversary of the Queen’s death with his father at Balmoral.
FEB 2024: Harry flies to the UK to be with his father. They meet for half an hour before Harry flies home. He does not meet William.
MAR: Meghan launches lifestyle brand American Riviera Orchard, which posts just nine times on Instagram.
APR: A judge brands Harry’s legal appeal for taxpayer-funded security following his move abroad “frankly hopeless”.
MAY: Harry pays a brief visit to London for an event held two miles from where Charles was staying. They do not meet.
JAN 1, 2025: Meghan relaunches her Instagram account with a video shot by Harry on a beach near their US home.
MAR: Meghan releases her Netflix show With Love, Meghan and launches As Ever
APR: Harry flies back to the UK for his security battle appeal and appears at London High Court – but fails to meet with his father.
Meghan explained: “I’ll bring this up if you are comfortable talking about it.
“I know you’ve spoken publicly about as you were doing Girl’s Who Code, all the personal things that were happening for you at that time.
“And the miscarriages that you’ve experienced. I’ve spoken about the miscarriage that we experienced.
“And I think in some parallel way when you have to learn to detach from the thing that you have so much promise and hope for.
“And to be able to be okay at a certain point to let something go that you plan to love for a long time.”
In 2020, Meghan wrote a piece for the New York Times detailing her tragic miscarriage.
She said she lost her baby in July 2020, a year after son Archie was born.
In the article, she described the feeling as “an almost unbearable grief”.
“I knew, as I clutched my firstborn child, that I was losing my second,” Meghan wrote after feeling sharp cramps in her body.
“I dropped to the floor with him in my arms, humming a lullaby to keep us both calm, the cheerful tune a stark contrast to my sense that something was not right,” she wrote.
Meghan Markle's ventures after stepping down as a working royal
THE Duchess of Sussex has kept busy since stepping down as a senior working royal in 2020 and relocating to California. Here are some of her business ventures...
- Archewell Foundation – A nonprofit supporting charitable initiatives.
- Netflix Deal – Producing content like Harry & Meghan and With Love, Meghan.
- Archetypes Podcast – Former Spotify show on female stereotypes.
- Clevr Blends – Investment in a women-owned wellness latte brand.
- Cesta Collective – Minority stake in a handbag brand supporting Rwandan artisans.
- As Ever – Previously known as American Riviera Orchard lifestyle brand selling jam.
- ShopMy Page – Online store featuring her curated fashion and beauty items.
- New Podcast – Confessions of a Female Founder focusing on entrepreneurship.
“Hours later, I lay in a hospital bed, holding my husband’s hand. I felt the clamminess of his palm and kissed his knuckles, wet from both our tears.
“Staring at the cold white walls, my eyes glazed over. I tried to imagine how we’d heal.”
She went on to describe how she watched “my husband’s heart break as he tried to hold the shattered pieces of mine”.
Episode one, which aired on April 8, was an interview with Whitney Wolfe Herde, who is the founder of Bumble and co-founder of Tinder.
But the episode failed to impress, with critics saying it offered “no substance”.
The Mail revealed how it only reached the top 19 on Spotify’s US charts.
The new series follows Meghan’s £18million podcast payout for Archetypes.
Spotify’s chief previously called her and Harry “f***ing grifters” for only producing 31 episodes.