It Fluctuates, It’s Weird
Aline Kominsky-Crumb: People can really fuck up when they’re young and still come out of it, as long as they don’t die of a drug overdose or get in a car accident while drinking.
John Dwyer: I honestly can't say, I have no idea. [Laughs] The world can be a very depressing place if you are not trying to make something.
Kominsky-Crumb: It’s hard to say that one thing is necessarily more important than another. Sometimes I feel crazy, like I’m running from one to the other.
Dwyer: Thank you. It fluctuates, it's weird.
Kominsky-Crumb: It’s not linear, there’s not one theme.
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Dwyer: That was a little bit after my time but still, it was cool to see somebody just buy a building and do whatever the hell they want with it.
Kominsky-Crumb: I am that person but I’m an evolved, different version of that.
Dwyer: Thank God. We're supposed to be nemeses, aren't we?
Kominsky-Crumb: We went to the gym together; we did yoga together.
Dwyer: I don't know what the hell happened to me.
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Kominsky-Crumb: Later, when the 1960s came, I realized that was all bullshit, all of it, and I was kind of angry about having been raised in such a horrible place with such bad values.
Dwyer: So we try and get noisier and harder and weirder and longer and more bloated.
Kominsky-Crumb: There’s pain and pleasure involved, but there’s also always this fatalistic dark humor about all of it.
Dwyer: You wake up to take a pee at five and you're like, "I guess I'm up now" and you're just watching the sun rising like, "What the hell? I went to bed at 3:00 a.m."
Kominsky-Crumb: I was able to do it somehow.