The Latest: The Supreme Court considers a possible TikTok ban
WASHINGTON (AP) — The law that could ban TikTok is coming before the Supreme Court on Friday morning, with the justices largely holding the app’s fate in their hands.
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Foreign governments accused of launching several influence operations across social media platforms
Foreign governments have been accused of launching several influence operations across several social media platforms.
The Justice Department alleged last year that several right-wing influencers popular on YouTube worked unknowingly for a company that was a front for a Russian influence operation. In September, TikTok said it removed accounts associated with Russian state media for engaging in “covert influence operations” ahead of the U.S. presidential election.
U.S. officials and outside experts have also cited examples of China-linked actors generating false news reports and social media posts.
Conservative Justice Gorsuch asks whether Biden administration’s argument is ‘paternalistic’
Conservative Justice Neil Gorsuch asks whether the Biden administration’s argument is a “paternalistic point of view.”
“Don’t we normally assume that the best remedy for problematic speech is counter speech?”
TikTok, he said, has said they would post a warning that the content could be manipulated by the Chinese government.
Prelogar said that kind of warning wouldn’t be enough to counterbalance any misinformation spread, but Gorsuch appears to remain skeptical.
Biden administration attorney says the Chinese government’s ‘control over TikTok’ gives it a potent weapon for covert influence
Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar, who represents the Biden administration, said in her opening statement that the Chinese government’s “control over TikTok” gives it a potent weapon for covert influence operations.
She argued the app poses a “grave threat to national security” by collecting “vast amounts” of personal data that the company could be compelled to hand over to the Chinese government.
To date, the U.S. hasn’t provided public evidence to show the Chinese authorities tinkered with TikTok to gain data on or influence Americans.
Lawyer argues creators who are ordinary American citizens don’t want to go to just another platform
People who create content for TikTok don’t want to just go to another platform, Fisher said. He’s representing creators who are “not famous people … they’re ordinary American citizens whose content that they create on the platform gets privileged by way of the quality of that content.”
TikTok’s algorithm is especially helpful to those creators, and other companies have not been able to copy it, he said.
Giving the government power to ban platforms because of their owners’ viewpoints sets a dangerous precedent, he argued.
Justice Sotomayor notes TikTok collects a lot of data compared to other websites
Justice Sonya Sotomayor on Friday asked questions about the type of data that TikTok collects, saying from her readings of the briefs “there was a lot of data that TikTok collects” compared to any other website.
In an analysis published in 2021, the University of Toronto’s nonprofit Citizen Lab said TikTok and Facebook collect similar amounts of user data, including device identifiers that can be used to track a user and other information that can piece together a user’s behavior across different platforms.
Chief Justice Roberts drills into First Amendment argument
Roberts picks apart Fisher’s argument that banning TikTok violates American users’ free speech rights.
“Congress is fine with the expression,” Roberts said. “They’re not fine with a foreign adversary, as they’ve determined it is, gathering all this information about the 170 million people who use TikTok.”
If national security concerns outweigh First Amendment fears in the eyes of the Supreme Court, they presumably would be more likely to uphold the law.
TikTok’s lawyer has finished
Jeffrey Fisher, a Stanford law professor representing creators on the wildly popular app, is now making his arguments.
Fisher begins with a pitch to conservative justices, by invoking their preferred way of evaluating whether laws, especially regarding speech and gun rights, are constitutional. “The act and the reasons behind it defy our history and traditions,” Fisher said,
“American creators have the right to work with the publisher of their choice,” Fisher said, answering questions from Justice Clarence Thomas about how exactly their rights are violated.
TikTok creators – as well as small business owners – have been anxiously waiting for a decision on the case, which could upend their livelihoods. Many creators rely on the platform for income, and have credited the platform for giving them visibility that other platforms did not.
Justice asks if TikTok can be recreated in any way
When asked by justice Amy Coney Barrett on whether TikTok can be recreated in any way, Francisco said any new TikTok would be a “fundamentally different platform” with different content.
Experts have said the Chinese government is likely to block any sale of the TikTok algorithm under the country’s revamped export laws. Investors interested in the purchasing platform have also acknowledged that even if TikTok is sold, it would have to be rebuilt with new technology.
TikTok lawyer says if no divestiture TikTok will go dark
Noel Francisco, attorney for TikTok and ByteDance said if ByteDance loses the case and there’s not a divestiture TikTok will go dark on Jan. 19.
Trump has also asked for a pause in the law to negotiate a deal, and Francisco, who served in his first administration, said “we might be in a different world again” after he takes office Jan. 20. He urged the court to consider a preliminary injunction.
“It makes perfect sense to issue a preliminary injunction and buy everybody a little breathing space,” he said. “A short reprieve here would make all the sense in the world.”
Justice Kavanaugh addresses concerns about China accessing information on tens of millions of Americans
Justice Brett Kavanaugh confronts TikTok’s lawyer about U.S. concerns that China is accessing information on tens of millions of Americans, especially teenagers and people in their 20s, with whom TikTok is especially popular.
“That seems like a huge concern for the future of the country,” said Kavanaugh, whose own daughters are in that age range.
Francisco responded that the government hasn’t shown definitive evidence of that happening.
China’s state broadcaster raises concerns about US government’s lack of transparency
In a blog post on its official social media account, China’s state broadcaster raised concerns of lack of transparency from the U.S. government and said the U.S. government has failed to produce evidence that Beijing has attempted to pressure TikTok.
A trending opinion on China’s social media is that TikTok has offered a “more comprehensive and positive” understanding of China and reduced “negative, stereotypical” views towards China.
Justices say a foreign corporation doesn’t have First Amendment rights
As often happens at the Supreme Court, the justices appear to be poking at what they consider the weakest part of Francisco’s argument, that TikTok’s constitutional rights would be violated if the law takes effect.
“The law is only targeted at this foreign corporation, which doesn’t have First Amendment rights,” Justice Elena Kagan said.
TikTok’s lawyer argues that when the app is being used in the U.S., it does have First Amendment rights, as do the creators that use the platform.
Justice asks if sale of TikTok is possible with more time
Justice Neil Gorsuch brings up the possibility that TikTok could be sold to other owners in the U.S., which would allow the app to stay available even if the law is upheld.
TikTok says that would be hard under the Jan. 19 deadline in the law, but Gorsuch asks – “is a sale possible given more time?”
It would be “exceedingly difficult under any time frame,” Francisco said.
TikTok attorney says TikTok Inc., which runs the US platform, has ability to shut it down
Attorney Noel Francisco, who represents TikTok and its Chinese parent company, ByteDance, said said TikTok Inc, which runs TikTok’s the U.S. platform, has the ability to “shut down” the platform in the face of Chinese pressure.
TikTok presented a draft agreement to the U.S. government in 2022. The company has said a provision in that agreement would have required TikTok to put in a “kill switch” that allows the U.S. to suspend the platform if it was found to be non-compliant with the agreement.
Conservative justices question TikTok’s lawyer about foreign ownership of media outlets
Justice Brett Kavanaugh asks about the government’s history of preventing foreign ownership of media outlets, a factor cited by an appeals court panel that upheld the law.
Justice Samuel Alito, for his part, grilled Francisco about whether foreign ownership is an important legal issue in the case.
Chief Justice Roberts signals his take on the case
Chief Justice John Roberts says the “main concern” in the case is that TikTok’s China-based parent company has to cooperate with the Chinese government’s intelligence operations.
Roberts’ take on the case will carry great weight as both the chief and a member of the court’s conservative majority.
Arguments are underway
Supreme Court arguments over the law that could ban TikTok in the U.S. have begun. Up first is attorney Noel Francisco, who represents TikTok and its Chinese parent company, ByteDance.
Here’s what could happen if TikTok is banned
If TikTok isn’t sold to an approved buyer, the federal law would prohibit app stores, such as those operated by Apple and Google, from offering the popular app. It would also bar internet hosting services from hosting TikTok.
TikTok users who already have the app on their phones will continue to have access to it. But new users won’t be able to download the app, and existing ones will no longer be able to receive updates. That will eventually render the app unworkable, the Justice Department has said in court filings.
Justice Clarence Thomas will ask the first question
Thomas was famously silent during arguments for years at a time because he said he relied on written briefs and thought his colleagues interrupted too much.
But when the court started hearing cases remotely during the COVID-19 pandemic, the justices altered their practice and asked questions one by one, instead of the usual free-for-all. Even after they returned to the courtroom, the justices have informally agreed to allow Thomas, the longest-serving member of the court, to go first.
He has asked questions at every argument session he’s attended since the court’s first remote arguments in May 2020.
How long will arguments last?
The court has set aside two hours for arguments, but it wouldn’t be shocking if they go on for an additional hour or more. Since returning to the courtroom following its closure for the coronavirus pandemic, the court operates under lenient rules about time.
TikTok’s parent company has said it won’t sell
TikTok’s parent company, ByteDance, has said it won’t sell the short-form video platform. But some investors have been eyeing it, including Trump’s Former Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchi n and billionaire businessman Frank McCourt. On Thursday, McCourt’s Project Liberty initiative said it, along with its unnamed partners, presented a proposal to ByteDance to acquire TikTok’s U.S. assets. The consortium, which includes “Shark Tank” host Kevin O’Leary, did not disclose the financial terms of the offer.
Why does the US see TikTok as a security threat?
TikTok is owned by ByteDance, a technology company based in China. The U.S. says it has two-fold concerns: TikTok collects vast swaths of user data, including sensitive information on viewing habits, that officials argue could fall into the hands of the Chinese government through coercion. Officials have also warned the proprietary algorithm that fuels what users see on the app is vulnerable to manipulation by Chinese authorities, who could pressure ByteDance to shape content on the platform in a way that’s difficult to detect.
A decision in the case should come quickly
The Supreme Court often takes months to decide its most contentious cases, but the justices are expected to signal their views on the TikTok ban in a matter of days.
The law will take effect on Jan. 19, unless the court steps in before then.
So even if the court’s final decision isn’t ready, the justices may well issue a speedy order, either postponing the law’s effective date or rejecting pending emergency appeals to do so. In that event, the court would essentially be telegraphing its views on the constitutionality of the TikTok ban.
The Supreme Court will hear arguments on a possible TikTok ban
The law that could ban TikTok is coming before the Supreme Court on Friday, with the justices largely holding the app’s fate in their hands.
The popular social media platform says the law violates the First Amendment and should be struck down.
TikTok’s parent company is based in China, and the U.S. government says that means it is a potential national security threat. Chinese authorities could force it to hand over sensitive data on the huge number of Americans who use it or could influence the spread of information on the platform, they say.
An appeals court has upheld the law, which bans TikTok unless it’s sold.
The law is set to take effect Jan. 19, the day before a new term begins for President-elect Donald Trump, who has 14.7 million followers on the platform. The Republican says he wants to “save TikTok.”
The current and former solicitors general will argue against each other for today’s case
Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar, representing the Biden administration, will be making her final arguments as the administration’s top Supreme Court lawyer. A political appointee, Prelogar will be out of a job when Donald Trump becomes president.
Prelogar’s predecessor as solicitor general was Noel Francisco, whom Trump picked for the job in his first White House term.
Back in private practice, Francisco is representing TikTok and its Chinese parent company, ByteDance. The third highly experienced lawyer arguing the case is Jeffrey Fisher, a Stanford law professor who represents content creators and TikTok users. Fisher has made 49 arguments before Friday.
Level of scrutiny: A legal issue that could play a decisive role in the case
Restrictions on speech often are reviewed under the highest level of scrutiny, known as strict scrutiny. Laws only rarely survive when courts apply strict scrutiny.
But Judges Douglas Ginsburg and Neomi Rao, two of the three appellate judges who upheld the law, said the TikTok ban is among the rare laws that would withstand strict scrutiny. The third member of the panel, Judge Sri Srinivasan, voted to uphold the law under heightened scrutiny, a level below strict scrutiny. Lawyers for the companies, content creators and TikTok users want the justices to use strict scrutiny and strike down the law.
Small businesses await verdict with trepidation
Many small business owners say it would significantly hurt their businesses if TikTok gets banned and that contingency plans like shifting platforms wouldn’t help because their followers found them on TikTok.
“I am worried because there is no preparation for this,” said Desiree Hill of Crown’s Corner Mechanic in Conyers, Georgia. She boosted her business by posting videos about cars on TikTok.
“It holds such a significant place in regards to my customer base and how I reach customers, that if I lose TikTok, I will lose a large part of my business or I will lose my ability to grow,” she said.
The case is also of high interest in China
As the trade and tech war between the U.S. and China heated up during Trump’s first term, Beijing adopted an export control law to restrict the sale of algorithm, apparently to protect China’s technological advantages from falling into foreign hands.
The Chinese law makes it impossible for ByteDance to divest TikTok in its full. ByteDance, a private tech company that has been turned into a symbol of China’s resistance to U.S., would displease Beijing if it should sell off TikTok without putting on a strong fight.
Observers also believe Beijing prefer ByteDance to shut down TikTok rather than selling it, should its legal battle fail. At home, the Chinese government has used the case as an example of the U.S. using state power to go after a successful Chinese company. State media have supported ByteDance’s legal actions in the U.S., and public opinion applauds the tech company for standing up against the U.S. government and for breaking the monopoly of western social media.
What would happen to TikTok if the ban is upheld?
The law gives ByteDance the option to sell TikTok. But attorneys for the two companies have said TikTok would have to shut down by Jan. 19 because divestment is technologically and commercially impossible.
A sale of the platform without the algorithm — which Chinese authorities are also expected to block any potential divesture plan — would turn the U.S. version of TikTok into an island, separate from all other global content.
TikTok has long denied it could be used as a tool of Beijing
The company sued the government over the law late last year.
TikTok had negotiated with the Biden administration between 2021 and 2022 to resolve the concerns around U.S. data privacy and potential algorithmic manipulation. In court documents, it has accused the administration of essentially walking away from those negotiations after it presented a draft agreement in August 2022.
But the Justice Department has said the Biden administration concluded the proposal was “insufficient” because it would maintain TikTok’s ties to China. The agency said the Executive Branch also could “neither trust ByteDance to comply nor detect noncompliance before it was too late.”
Attorneys for TikTok — and ByteDance — have accurately noted the U.S. hasn’t provided evidence to show that the company handed over user data to the Chinese government, or manipulated content for Beijing’s benefit in the U.S..
They have also argued the law is predicated on future risks, which the Department of Justice has emphasized pointing in part to unspecified action it claims the two companies have taken in the past due to demands from the Chinese government.