Perhaps you are aware there is a new movie out titled A Complete Unknown. It addresses the first five years, or thereabouts, in Bob Dylan’s public musical life. I have not yet seen it. I have read some interviews with cast, director, etc., and have seen some excerpts, as well as heard from some friends who have seen it.
Timothee Chalamet, who plays Dylan, has reported that he hopes that among other outcomes the movie will introduce Dylan and his words to new generations. Regrettably I can’t now say that my guest for this episode is Bob Dylan here to talk about his words. I can’t even say my guest is Timothee Chalamet here to talk about Dylan’s words. But…
Well, I find it remarkable that high school kids, college kids, grown people in their twenties and thirties, even ones who listen to lots of music, often don’t even know who Bob Dylan is. I’ve had two friends who have seen the movie tell me the theatre was full of people just like them, people just like me—in the specific attribute that we share of having a shitload of lived birthdays to our credit. We are old people. And these two friends reported that in the theatre there were virtually no young people. Incredible.
And yet, I also know, that isn’t incredible. After all, when I was a young person did I know performers, even incandescent performers, from a half century earlier. Not a chance. I barely knew there had been life a half century earlier.
And, with music, I think this situation is more true than in many other domains. Most of us get into listening to music when we are quite young, and as we get older we tend to listen less. And often what we listen to when we are older, is in any case what we listened to when we were younger. So we don’t know much music before when we got started, often not even ten years before, much less from fifty or sixty years before we got started. And often we don’t know much more music after our early days, as well, perhaps twenty years and then silence is not very golden.
So it goes. It is not ideal, but I suspect as a broad though of course not universal phenomenon the time-tripping picture is pretty accurate. Thus that few young people turn to A Complete Unknown is not surprising.
Why should a teen now, a twenty-something adult now, a thirty something adult now, hell, anyone less than sixty four now, take any time now to even know of Bob Dylan, much less to seriously deep dive into his music?
Some old folks might say, well, because Dylan changed music into something it wasn’t. I think it is absolutely true that he did just that regarding duration, focus, lyrics, and more but, even so, some young folks might say, okay, great. I’ll take your word for it. I’m happy to hear he did that. But why do I need to explore it? Why do I need to deep dive into it? That is your pool, not mine.
Well, I reply, the truth is, you don’t. I don’t think that Dylan having been historically pivotal to how music has developed is sufficient reason for you to feel a great need to go back and listen. Not to him, or to Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Patti Smith, Joni Mitchell—and so on.
You may have historical interest in those who went before and transformed the discipline, and so you may choose to listen deeply way back, and that is fine, of course. But I don’t think it is essential that people go back because of prior historical impact. The same is true and may make the point even more clearly, in many other disciplines.
In physics, for example, you don’t have to go back to read Einstein or Dirac, much less Newton and many others who changed the whole field. Yes, they did that, but that means that if you get up to date now, perhaps physics being your thing, then by being up-to-date now, you are imbibing their effects on physics along with more effects of others since.
Or, say you love basketball. Do you have to watch old videos of Doctor J, Bill Russell, Bill Walton, and Oscar Robinson to be a fan who legitimately and intelligently enjoys basketball now. The old timers tend to say yes, you do, but I don’t think so. The predecessors’ effects live on in the game. So to experience historical insights, to gain the fullest possible overview, yes, you would have to dig in, but not to enjoy next Tuesday’s playoff game, which is quite alright to do.
Is there some other reason to visit the past in diverse fields, including music? Yes, I think there is. For example, you may simply enjoy doing so. History is your drug of choice. Or, time-traveling back, you may be affected by the predecessors’ style and particular genius. This of course applies most powerfully if you are active in the discipline or art, whatever it may be. But what if you just dabble now and then and you mostly enjoy what’s happening now, what’s current, not least because it is what others now enjoy?
I think there is still a reason to time-travel in some fields, for some people. Call the destination enjoyment, enrichment, and edification. And so, to potentially accrue those things there is a case, I claim, for listening to Bob Dylan’s music. But such a case requires evidence, not just a claim.
No one had heard anything quite like Dylan before Dylan. And I would have to say, we haven’t heard overly much like him since him. Big deal, you might say, everyone is different. Yes, that is true, but some are differently different. That is a big claim, rarely true, I admit. You can decide for yourself if it is true of Dylan, but you can’t do that if you don’t give his work some time. So here I admit that I am trying to provoke attention to Dylan from those who haven’t yet given his work much. For the rest of you, those who have attended to his work, maybe this will be a reminder of why you cared, or just a familiar trip with a few twists.
I should perhaps say that for me at least, as a teenager hearing Dylan, what was mesmerizing and edifying like with no other singer song writer included his voice and the ebb and flow of the music under his songs. But beyond those, and those don’t universally appeal even if I can’t perceive why they don’t, for me what was and is mesmerizing, and what I would wager it could be mesmerizing for you too, albeit with some effort to first get into something different, is his incredible lyrics.
So what can I say? Am I just a guy with roots way back when who is forever young about this, which in this case could mean forever blind to the scale of subsequent accomplishments? Or am I correct that Dylan’s lyrics, even taken alone, much less taken with the melodies and sonic and social emotions that accompany them, stand out even today as wildly different than what is current—and after sixty years, even as still more enjoyable, enriching, and edifying than most and perhaps even all of the rest?
The movie A Complete Unknown addresses just five years of Dylan’s emerging public life. And in those years, it addresses just a few songs, with hundreds more to follow later. What more could the film include about Dylan or his lyrics without becoming endless? The movie addresses some of his life too, one chapter I guess, albeit a very important one, but I will set his life aside. And the movie doesn’t have Dylan’s voice, though Chalamet, I am told, does a profoundly good job. He’s not Dylan, but very good.
So I thought I would here take a sort of break from thinking about the deadly orange plague and how to erase it. I thought I would try and help along Chalamet’s wish for the movie—that it bring new ears to Dylan’s music—and to do that, I would try to entertain, enrich, and edify by offering some Dylan lyrics, even without his voice and music. Mostly, I will let the movie largely choose which songs to present…but not entirely.
Finally, I hesitate to interject comments with the lyrics, but as I transcribe the lyrics I suspect I may at times be unable to stop myself. If my comments help a little, great. If not, ignore my small part. But take some time for Dylan’s large part.
When Leonard Cohen, another incredible poet from the old days who is, I dare say, also worth some of your time in 2025 was asked about Dylan winning the Noble Prize for literature he said, “To me, [the award] is like pinning a medal on Mount Everest for being the highest mountain.” I will keep my comments on the mighty big mountain to an absolute minimum, and not just relative to its scale.
I would wager that you all expect me to now offer up some of Dylan’s more political early songs, but first how about a quick foray into some of his version of what is so ubiquitous nowadays…four of his relationship songs…even break up / look back songs, though with an edge. It turns out Dylan is not only an observant troubadour, he is also a human.
First… consider “Girl from the North Country” which came along after the movie time but refered back to a movie lady, I think…
It goes like this:
Not overly complex lyrics. Not mind-bending metaphors and images. No need to interject. But still…he can write, already…
Next, consider, “All I Really Want to Do,” a song about him and a her—whoever that might have been—and imagine that you heard it as a teenager, before feminism got your attention…in fact before anything much got your attention.
Again, there is nothing hard to fathom in that song, and yet the sentiments, so succinct, are also so relevant and for some maybe even so emulatable.
I want to do two more relationship songs, if you will, since even some old folks like me may not know this next one…and then I have to do one that everyone knows…or knew.
First, here is the song you most likely have never heard, titled “Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window.” It was not in the movie but it was from the same period, or the end of it, the same time as “Positively Fourth Street” another song that displays wit on top of acid, which I will add later, if we have time…
If you perhaps think I was over the top putting the word feminism in the same sentence as his song “All I Really Want To Do.” listen to this song from just before feminism freed countless minds…indeed, from before my generation had by and large heard a feminist word. It was sung to a particular woman…but perhaps also to many women, and I would say to all men. So “Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window” goes:
I will interject, I heard that, years after it was recorded, and, well, I wondered, is that fair? Are we men really that gross?
Then came the chorus:
I interject: Think abused women not easily moving on…
The song continues:
I have to interject: was there a more militant then current critique of sexism that I missed? Caustic Dylan was very caustic indeed. How long did it take me before I could even really hear what he sang in this one? Surely not as a senior in high school, but maybe it planted some seeds. I have to wonder if Dylan himself heard this one, or maybe he just conveyed it from out of the skies. And tell me, do you not think this broad assessment of male misogyny, even with all the gains against such ways that have occurred over the years, still resonates? Is the image you get listening to this much different than your picture of Trump and Musk? The song goes on:
I interject, I think perhaps it isn’t surprising that this song is barely known at all…
It ends:
Of course the women who shortly later re-birthed feminism didn’t need and probably never heard Dylan cajoling involvement, but I did… and I have to admit, I wonder about the women who voted for Trump. Might they hear this before too long as we heard it back then?
Note—if it wasn’t already clear—Dylan’s relationship songs are in no way about narrow relationships even if they ostensibly mainly aim to address just those. Is that true, today, too?
And now comes Dylan’s most famous song, “Like A Rolling Stone,” which is the one that most immediately, most proximately, changed the whole industry, and now his words are somewhat more complex. He piles images on images and multiple listenings can yield new takes. This song, and the choice to go in your face electric at the time, is really the destination of the movie. Dylan’s move to rock from folk, but we will here have more to present, from a bit earlier, and later, too, after this one.
This time it is a wealthy, even a rich woman—or maybe all materially rich women, or maybe everyone who is materially rich, that Dylan is singing to and about. I am not going to repeatedly include the chorus…save for one time.
And now the chorus…
I interject: Look up “get juiced in it”—which of three or four meanings do you think Dylan meant to evoke, or all of them about the finest schools, or perhaps from another song, about the “old folks home at the college.”
I can’t not interject—here we have men again…a rich one riding a motorcycle not throwing chalk, but still not where it’s at…
Okay, Like A Rolling Stone in hand, it’s time to go back a few years to directly consider society…to go back to what he called his finger-pointing songs and I have to wonder would a young person listening to the following offerings now, with Trump in the societal saddle, and with us needing to do something about it, hear these songs not exactly but at least somewhat like I and others heard them sixty years ago?
First, consider “Blowin’ in the Wind.”
No need to interject. No confusion. Finger pointed unambiguously. Next we have “With God On Our Side,” a song certainly sung to my generation.
That was early sixties, the civil rights movement was quite real but the anti war movement was just getting up to speed. Dylan was finger pointing. So what should we have felt heading off to school, or off to war?
Do you know the Langston Hughes poem:
Harlem (A Dream Deferred)
The next song for our survey—still very straight forward—is “Masters of War”—which revealed quite graphically and unsubtly what Dylan then felt, and me too.
Imagine you listened to that repeatedly and then you went off to college, or to work, or to wherever. What might happen next for you as the bombs blasted Indochina? Or, today, Gaza? Would you sag like a heavy load, or explode?
I first got into Dylan, however, as did a great many people via a song of his, well part of it, anyhow, sung by a group called the Byrds, “Mr. Tambourine Man.” So I think maybe why not include it? Choosing among so much what to convey here is really taxing. How can I not include “Maggies Farm,” she says “sing while you slave and I just get bored,” “When the Ship Comes In,” and “Subterranean Homesick Blues,” “get born, keep warm, short pants, romance, learn to dance, get dressed get blessed, try to be a success, please her, please him, buy gifts don’t steal, don’t lift 20 years of schoolin’ and they put you on the day shift.” “Mr. Tambourine Man” introduces Dylan writing image after image as he leaves his meaning sometimes hard to perceive, much less to hold on to.
And now the chorus which I won’t keep repeating…
I won’t burden you with how I thought about that one, after feeling its verses, except to say that as best I could estimate, you can’t play a song on a tambourine and so I thought the the “ancient empty streets too dead for dreaming” were Dylan’s mind at that moment, or at any rate the mind of the part of him that whispered the words to the rest of him—and that his own parade referred to his funeral…but then again, perhaps not. He is, after all, still alive. And his meanings abound.
Now I’d like to offer two in between songs, I guess you might call them, in between finger pointing and going way more poetic. This is where the Nobel Prize judges likely looked, I think, to see what this guy had to offer literature. Note though, that to not really finger point, and to even ridicule finger pointing, certainly didn’t mean Dylan was not taking on the world. Actually, it didn’t even mean no more fingers were going to aim where he wanted.
First, there was “A Hard Rain’s A-Gonna Fall.” At this point, I think he had partly in mind a nuclear rain as a metaphor and it works if you take it that way now, but it also works having in mind global storms—you know, high water rising and fascism prowling—or really whatever calamitous social crises you want to insert, even though, again, it was sixty years ago that he wrote this and yet even with the quite monumental changes since, it could also have been written ten minutes ago, which is both amazing and rather sad…because it wasn’t. “Hard Rain” went and goes like this:
Not bad to know our song well and reach out widely with it, or so it seemed to me albeit quite a long time after it seemed that way to him. Next is a song I find my mind sending lines from to my typing fingers over and over, right up to now. Images piled on images. It is ”It’s Alright, Ma (I’m Only Bleeding), and it goes like this…
Jeez Ma, during that, after that, I can’t find my voice, but I feel a great need to find my way. All life in a song, with an edge. And what about your thought dreams? Then? Now? Can we implement them? It turns out that in the fifty to sixty years since all that, Dylan has written hundreds more songs for dozens of albums and who knows how many he consigned to a waste basket. I say that just to make evident that if you consider all this and do get interested, there is more to explore. Remember what I said at the outset, about how we get hooked on sounds when young and we don’t really keep up. It applies to me too. One of the more recent songs I did notice was in the nineties… and it is next. After that there is one from still more recently, 2001 I think, that I never heard until preparing for this, and that I never knew existed, and yet he got an Oscar for it as best song in a movie.
First: “Dignity”
Is not seeking dignity more in play now, even, than then? And for the last song in this episode—I thought writing that, that, I have to stop somewhere. And I thought at first that I would jump forward to 2000 to a song Dylan wrote for the movie “Wonder Boys.” I guess he was about sixty. I had never heard it despite that it got the Oscar. It is called “Things Have Changed.” But then I decided since Dylan changed personas over and over, repeatedly leaving one version of himself and stepping into another version of himself almost as his most constant attribute—always changing—perhaps I ought to convey the song “Positively Fourth Street” which displayed his fierce words again, but this time directed at those who wanted him to never change. The song title refers to a street in Greenwich Village, where he first joined folk singers and then, at least in their feelings, left them, though I would say, not really.
That was Dylan saying goodbye to the Folk music community. Next, in a song titled “Farewell Angelina.” he says goodbye to Joan Baez, I think, and, as well to the then radical activist left community. Notice there is nothing about Baez that repels him. Rather it is something about the times, about our community that repelled him. I think we should have listened to Dylan not only when he said what we liked, but also when he said what he tried to convey here, when he said what he could no longer immerse himself in, what he had to escape.
And so he did and not only Baez but also the movement lost Dylan at least as someone intimately immersed in it and singing for it. It was not her fault at all, I think, but instead the movement’s fault as we shot tin cans and heaved rocks, and I say again that I think we should have heard Dylan not only when he sang what we were ourselves learning and trying to teach, but also when he sang about our not always wonderful effects on others.
Next, here is one song not from Dylan but from Baez to him, well after their split. Dylan wasn’t the only one who could write. It is called “Diamonds and Rust.”
Okay, I know I said that would be it, but, I guess I lied. Dylan life-switching and dodging his own steps may be catching. At any rate, I don’t see how I can end this without this next song, the final one, I promise. It is called “Chimes of Freedom.” It’s on the album titled Another Side of Bob Dylan from 1964. Dylan was born in 1941, six years before me. So he was at most 23 when he wrote this. Like I said at the beginning, he was differently different…
The song goes like this…
Whooops, I gotta change my mind again. When the pundits and critics called Dylan the voice of my generation I think the song that they had in mind wasn’t any of those I have cribbed above. It was, instead, “The Times They Are A Changin.” So surely I have to offer that one too…
We still have to make Dylan’s observation real—don’t we?
So that’s it. I hope the words will cause you to try some albums. The music and his voice really do add to the brew. Bringing It All Back Home, Highway Sixty One Revisited, and Blonde on Blonde, were three albums done back to back to back, and are as good as any three consecutive artistic interventions, at least in my mind, as ever can be found, and at any rate are as good a place as any to start navigating Dylan, unless, of course, you start earlier—or later.
So by all means lend him your ear to help fulfill Chalamet’s hope for the movie’s effect, but do it please only as an adjunct to and maybe to help fuel giving Trump migraines, and worse.