The Everton Forum • Re: Ashley "not so" Young
I know you didn't make those statements, my point was your need to pull up those arguing against those points without also analysing those posting illogical or half fact based opinions on the other side of the coin.Are you alright mate? You seem to be replying to and disagreeing with about 3 people who aren't me.
I didn't reply to the Hoddle stuff or the Overlap video. I haven't made a single comment about it (apart from saying that Jill Scott gets talked over on their videos). So I think that's for someone else's benefit.
I also haven't said we played so much better last season. I have seen that argument somewhere. Might have been @TheRam and/or @superpull making that argument. Wasn't me anyway.
That's not my position. I'll be quite clear about my opinion again, as I have been previously. I am thankful that Dyche has kept us safe, but I don't like or rate him as a manager and I look forward to him leaving at the end of the season. I've said that numerous times. I can't be much clearer or more honest than that. No agendas or hidden meanings.
I don't mind you going in hard at all, so absolutely no need to apologise on that front. It just needs to make some sort of logical sense (ie in response to something I've actually said or suggested).
Try not to take this bit too personally. It's not meant as an attack. It's an observation. You have been responding to any semi-critical post about Dyche for months and months mate. Like almost every single one. It's a bit much. What's going on with that? I get the need to express your opinion and even to defend it staunchly, if you think someone is being wronged or misrepresented but you've been doing so much or it for so long.
Again, go in as hard as you want. I don't mind that in the slightest.
It feels like you're happy to poke holes in one side of the argument whilst ignoring the other sides fallacies.
To answer your question about why I am responding to posts it's quite simply there's a lack of balance to a lot of what's posted, and often it's after every single performance that's not very good. Yet we're a team that's of a standard around 11th - 15th. Teams around that standard don't win 2/3 of their games... so we're really expecting to not win more games than we win, we will play poorly in some of them. People just jump on every loss or poor performance like it's some huge travesty and we should be so much better. Some times that's true, often it's just the reality of being a bottom to lower mid table team.
Then we get mad shit like videos not relating to Dyche or even current football being branded as reflecting badly on him, it's bizarre and shows there's some unwarranted bad sentiment towards the guy. People don't need to like him or rate him, but stuff like that is just weird and very unwarranted.
I'm happy for people to not rate the standard of football, not like his gravelly voice, his press conferences etc etc, but also maybe just balance the opinions with some reflection on the players available (a backline of Young, Keane, Tarks and Mykolenko is very very shit, no one wants to admit that though), or that whilst we aren't playing great we've picked up a good points total lately (3rd highest in the league in the past 4 games).
It just gets very silly at times... and I get people think my defence of Dyche also is in this category but at least I will happily state things like a specific performance not being good enough, or that I'd not be against replacing him with a more progressive manager in the summer.
Fact is he was never a fashionable appointment, it's one that some were willing to tolerate for mid table mediocrity whilst we move to BDM, that acceptance has ran out before we've actually got there largely because he's done a good enough job to make people confident we'll achieve that even if we replaced him today.
My opinion is different to that in regard I think he deserves to see the season out and he's still very hampered, as any manager would be by a multitude of factors, and so I'll accept what he brings providing it continues to move us towards that stability and safety we need as that's the reality of the situation. Things like getting 9 points from 5 games for example imo is him doing his job to an acceptable standard, and we will most likely finish the season on 45-50 points which again is him hitting the brief he was brought in for and everyone wanted given where we were when he took over, and everything that's gone since.
Statistics: Posted by AjaxAndy — Fri Nov 01, 2024 4:26 pm